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FORT WAYNE. But they are for the most part Catholic. In other words I am speaking about what the group believes officially and publicly. There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. From one not typical traditionalist to another (Im a sedevacantist, you know that radioactive, flea-bitten & lice infested group rejected by all,) I agree with lots of what you say. FSSP Events Mine is no1. Most professed Novus Ordites and, indeed, any who recognise in a Heresiarch a pope, live in a sort of miasma where evidence does not rule the position, the position rules the evidence. Unfortunately Voris has much in common with the SSPX in this way. Catholics are watching and waiting. I remember that you detested this video and Michael Matts opinion here because I recall that you commented on it when it first came out. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. Checks can be written to "Mission Tradition." New - Meal Train - Calling all those who want to grow in love of neighbor! What did Our Lord Jesus say: by the love you have for one another will they know you and love your enemies, be good to those who hate you and persecute you. For these past years weve all been discussing how Pope Francis couldnt care less about dogma, doctrine, rules and rubrics. I love piokolby and others here enough to point out that they may be sinning themselves by their polemics and lack of prudent speech. In charity, I pray that every Catholic should be as blessed. I pray that Catholics (on BOTH sides of this issue) read your response and learn that the real enemies of Our Lord love confusion and division. I DARE him to try and dispute me. What they ultimately have lacked, though, is a real sense of contact, intrigue, and love with a Person. Ill leave it to you to decide if the jihadist with the cash in hand played a part in influencing Voris to reinvent himself. I have very good reasons for my feelings towards your beloved order. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. me) Die for Him? [Jesus: The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. I have learned much from your links over the past several months and appreciate your insights. I was reading the blogger Leo over on Catholic Truth Scotland and he said a priest once described Vatican II as human respect, dogmatized. 2nd group those that attend TLM this can range from someone who may attend a weekday TLM or sunday TLM but who still likes to be involved with their local parish and who sees no problem with new mass. It was sent in by a parishoner when the FSSP got the personal parish. In this letter, the North American District Superior of the FSSP, the Rev. Who gets to determine where the standard of Christ is planted? Fr. San Diego, CA While every home has its own mix of dysfunction, the anger and frustration displayed by those raised in more dysfunctional ones reveals this innate sense of what was to be expected. God love you! it comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. Anyone who reads Louies blog should, by now, have developed an awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church. The fact that he has since set up an FSSP parish doesnt really fully redress that injustice, to my mind. Is there no one out there who can challenge poikolby and rich, and others here who detract from the reputations of these men, and from the reputation of the FSSP but me? The majority do beleive there were true popes since 1958. IMHO, no one is going to learn anything about the Faith here in this combox or any other. Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. This is a very short description and in no way represents all the opinions of these groups listed. Use those words. This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. I know one FSSP priest ONE that has publicly said the SSPX is not in schism. His pastor for some time (until very recently) was Fr. De maria. Only God can do that. The FSSP parish runs a school and the local diocese enforces a policy that all adults who work with children must have a criminal background check and fingerprint search. Fr. Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. It can happen from a negative event; that is, when someone or something becomes threatened in such a way that forces us to look at it with the attention it deserves. Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. Omaha, NE Kansas City/Westwood, KS They remind me of that commercial where the woman walks up to the counter to pay for something and the girl says, I need to see your I.D. and the woman says, But Im your Mother! But I am going to check your topics before I read further. Faithful Catholics do not have time to be having this debate with the Synod just around the corner. The threats certainly have increased in intensity in recent years; even the lukewarm Christian can sense this and perhaps feels the need to join in the resistance and push back. (I also think Drumms defense of the Dudley affair is unpersuasive. * Sunday Mass at St. Paul's College Chapel, Ponsonby. All in all, the time table laid out herein is accurate. It is indeed a shame that there is not a single fully traditional Catholic college in the country. Voris has, in many cases, exposed the corruption inside the N.O. But just bc it ought to be further delineatd in that separate category for clarity which would take a minute. Light and life to all He brings, throwing light on our blind spots, provided of course that we give the Infant in the Manger the attention He rightfully deserves. Voris has so applied his intellect. Nor are they interested in hearing the kind of drivel spewed out by piokolby, rich and others. Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. Problem sorted. Fort Myers, FL Clearly many of them have the Faith and are holy. Of course not. Ottawa, ON Their website didnt say where he was going. The FSSP accepts the new mass and Vatican II. GOD did it 2. His first Mass in Seattle will be on Sunday, October 5th and it will be a sung Mass. Fr. Christ asks His Apostles. Dear grandfather of. When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. dear salvemur, And what does Taylor Marshalls video have to do with the closing? Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bp. Fall - Men's Recollection - The Holy Name Society will be sponsoring a Men's Morning of Recollection given by Fr. https://akacatholic.com/providential-propers/#comments No the abandoning of Christ for the FSSP is a doctrinal matter: Thank you, john6. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. Nothing is credible in the Church apart from Christ who lives in it with us; if we do not believe Christ is God, then we never believe in the truths that flow from that and have had tremendous impact on us the Holy Trinity, the Holy Eucharist, the Resurrection, the forgiveness of sins. Please allow us and them to listen to you. Do you have any insight on this? Saskatoon, SK Colorado Springs, CO Fresno, CA I think they wanted an experienced priest to help Fr. 1st group attend the new mass at local parishes this ranges from sunday catholics too conservative and everything in between can comprise of people who dont make good use of the sacraments to parish council types , eucharistic ministers etc. Clarkdale, AZ This link is more succinct. Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. They dont a one-size-fits-all approach to this topic. I suggest you show more charity to Catholics. Whether you believe the Pope IS the Pope (but in grave error and behaving as a Heretic) or the Pope IS NOT the Pope (for the same reasons), the fact remains that we are all suffering Catholics, striving to restore what is birthright membership through Baptism in the True Church of Christthe Holy, Roman Catholic Church. Dear john6, There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. There are many doctrinal errors in this mans supposed apparitions. These Catholics focus heavily & almost continually on Bergoglio-who is not the problem. You have entered an incorrect email address! The schismatic Orthodox bishops and priests are validly ordained too. We can end the discussion on this subject . But the combox is just getting too much. The FSSP constitutions in 2003 bound the FSSP to the document that contains lies and heresy. Catholic families (WITH CHILDREN) have broken up because the FSSP Priest told Catholics they were not licitly married because they were married by a SSPX Priest. Denver, CO Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Many Catholics, most Catholics, in fact, dont really know very much at all, if anything, about this group which has been around in one form or another since 1988, as one way of counting The Society came about in response, reaction to the overall weakening of the Church and many of Her leaders, which has been an ongoing process since the 1960s. Register Now. Mr. Miguel Flores-Perez ('02), and Rev. EVANSVILLE. (1 Cor:23). His temporal concerns; nothing more, nothing less. It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary That Heresy being Modernism itself. (opposite to voris) I would imagine quite the opposite, im sure this approach has caused louie a great deal of problems as of late. Priest Training Workshops The Church is Christ, in her visible human element and invisible divine element, living through the ages in such a way as to be a place of dogmatic and moral security as a house built on rock, and where one understands how to love and live from the Person who is Life itself. Likewise he used to criticize the Council for its abject failures. Gruner were very sensational to say the least. The bottom line, in my opinion, is he is merely a distraction from the real issues facing the Catholic world and the world in general. A Person stands behind the doctrine and morals. This is the document that created the FSSP. Saguto is FSSPDistrict Superior in the United States: Insanity has been described as "doing the same over and over while expecting different results." Time and again I have tried to make clear that pocket recordings do not faithfully reproduce choral sound. Richard M, Fort Wayne, IN They prefer the Traditional Mass for sure but they are not going to cause any scandal to other Catholics by being disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. Father Joseph DeGuzman, FSSP, from priestly ministry outside the archdiocese to chaplain of the Latin Mass Community of St. The heartfelt acknowledgment of potential loss is a sure-fire way of checking contempt and correcting things. Stewart and the many faithful who prepared our beautiful convent! It was simply too painful for many lay people to take. I think Novus Ordo Traditionalists, in my opinion are generally of goodwill, but actually end up causing scandal through false obedience. But the new campus lease turned out not to be sustainable, either, just a reprieve in execution of sentence, and it is astonishing to me that he thought it could be otherwise. I have spoken to/communicated with exactly two FSSP priests in my life. 4th group SSPX canonically founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970. Ottawa, ON All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. He deleted from his website any and all references to his former positions; as well as the segments that include me; a 13 part Vatican II series among them. In my experience Ive found them to be extremely obedient people who were obedient as children. And whatever Kings responsibility (or lack thereof) for that, you can hardly blame Olson of the Mater Dei priests for that state of affairs. Can we just let Michael Voris get on with his shtick? Voris and Fisher more college are just the latest in a long line of horrors. Gruner was yet, so I looked past it in ignorance. Jeremy Palman. Fresno, CA Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass One single Traditional Catholic College in the whole United States operating with the approval of the local ordinary was just too much to ask. The same priest asked me to purchase a picture of the Archbishop (Lefebvre) for the Rectory. The attacks from Michael Voris & CMTV against Catholics in the SSPX would not be possible were it not for the FSSP and the Bishops who ordain Priests for the FSSP. I hope for the sake of the salvation of souls and the good of the Church that the whole story is known. Grega's departure from the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter could have been given. (Ive read more of his ramblings than I care to acknowledge.). In the early days of the Novus Ordo priests and some Bishops understood that they had to give that scandal in order to protect souls from sliding into heresy and losing the Faith. Look more closely into the factions and personalities in and around Irving that split up Fisher Moore College around 2012-14, and you just may find your answers as to whose motives now motivate whom. ***That said, this includes those who wish to be Catholic. Tyler, TX Although not everything on this site can be trusted, the site does a good job with this supposed visionary. It helps me, anyway. financially, the college was always on life support. It helps to know who is on our team though, doesnt it? Fraternity Publications I want news I can use, and information about my beloved Church that either furthers my knowledge about her, or warns me about those who want to destroy her. I thank God daily for them. VII & that which was borne of it, a Modernist Sect, is the problem. Michael Saguto passed away in New York, New York. From what Louies stated himself, he welcomes all voices whether blunt, shy, up front, in your face or the opposite as well as the sedvacantist voice, as mine is. Wolfe. As , albeit indirectly, pointed out in a discussion with my2cents below, trads have 2 things in common: they love the so called latin mass & they revile sedevacantists. Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. The FSSP superiors have already been notified: http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-john-emerson-fssp-on-his-break-from-the-sspx Will the FSSP leaders act? I am an FSSP parishioner who travels a lot. All in mortal sin? Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. Louie February 22, 2023 Blog Post No Comments. I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. This takes a toll on an aging trad & many times that is apparent. I would submit that a reasonably well-formed Catholic of average intelligence can indeed arrive at a high degree of certainty that the dictates of the post-conciliar popes with respect to the SSPX (as it concerns issues surrounding Vatican II and the new Mass) are not manifestations of the will of the Father. Fr. More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. These are the signs of an unstable mind. Now there is the objective case of schism, and the legal/subjective case of schism. Voris used Father Wolfe FSSP in his attacks. I give you credit. Fr. Voris and Co. no longer has an interest in urging their viewers to do that; Voris simply wants to dictate to the audience what serves him best. (Remember, divine mercy had been condemned 3 times.) Will you also look at the links I posted above? Not good enough for some here. He knows very well that the Council and the new Mass both are causing people to lose the faith. heh-heh, point taken! The modernists are suborning the so-called traditionalists. Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. This side of eternity, there will always be a certain obscurity to Faith because God wishes that we walk in trust of Him; He wants to lead us because our sanctification is His work with our cooperation. In any case, the plagiarized text (as alleged in the link above) is taken from a sermon given by Fr. Quincy, IL Sad. Heck, they dont even tell every person they meet to avoid the Novus Ordo! SEND FLOWERS. Im happy to let people know what led me to the place where I currently stand. The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter has served All Saints since 2013. Voris, by contrast, runs every last word through a filter; avoiding anything that might conflict with more personal concerns; the likes of which well address a little later. I do believe that theres a thread of influence and someone as familiar with these personalities as Louie would do well to explore it. Hopefully, the non una-cum SSPX priests will make the courageous move after the *nothing* in October. Los Angeles, CA And to do it using the lame excuse that one is trying to speak the truth and warn others is to be blind to ones true motives. Brookville, IN Regardless of how we categorize the post-conciliar popes, the Traditional movement is best served by sticking together. Back in the day, Voris, out of genuine concern for souls, used to lambaste the new Mass as a danger to the faith. Saguto is an excellent priest but he needs to stop perpetuating this lie and he needs to order his priests to do the same. (Mt 16:15) There is only one correct answer to this question, upon which is built the entire deposit of Faith. I do not have a right to say anymore. Fr. The FSSP does not have time to respond to every crackpot coming down the internet pike. My only point was the Church today is in a dire crisis and the antics of Mr. Voris are the least of our problems. We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. I got news for all of us here. Wolfe: Schism is not something that comes into being by a legal declaration. There is no other way for mankind to have been saved and redeemed except through the sacrificial offering of God Himself, totally innocent and obedient, to God the Father. But for the Presidents creativity, the College would have failed two years before it did. So whats the opposite of human respect, piety? Vancouver, BC Nicholson) with the SSPX marks him out as, Im afraid, something of a fanatic. However, over the last year and a half U.S. dioceses and religious orders serving most of the Catholics in the country have released lists of "credibly accused" abusers who have served in their ranks, using their own criteria for whom to include. Father has done a 180 degree turn since his days in Kansas City, where I also was. As such, the pope can make a formal declaration of schism based upon the SSPXs refusal to accept the errors of the Council, and guess what? As our Lord taught, governed, and sanctified by His physical Body that He took of our Lady overshadowed by the Holy Ghost, so He continues to do now with His Mystical Body, the Church, overshadowed by the Holy Ghost on Pentecost. No I didnt. Saskatoon, SK This comes about in various ways. With respect, atttempts to moderate commmenters on this site have been undertaken by other commenters here before, going back years. All of these evils, in fact, are their responsibility. For example, was the will of the Father being expressed when Pope Alexander VI turned to one of his females friends and requested Well, you get the point. The college (despite having some good faculty and staff) was on track to die either way, and that cannot be laid all at the feet of the bishop, or the FSSP at Mater Dei. It doesnt take a Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots, folks. Post navigation Oklahoma City, OK The thought of home is something that is written into the heart of every human being; while often times it brings to mind a physical house or location, it goes deeper. Fort Worth, TX Saguto for his work as District Superior of North America since 2015. Either way . This means that love is the basis of being a member of the Church, as it is supposed to be the basis of being a member of a home. Nashua, NH But I realized, and it actually had nothing to do w/sedevacantism, that me and mine WERE Nancy Pelosi. Stay away. Thats Mr. V.s job. The majority of sedes beleive the new mass invalid due to the new rites doubtful priestly ordinations possibly invalid and majority beleive episcopal consecreations in the new rite invalid. Inaccurately classified and Inaccuratley defined sorry to the average reader i got it wrong in my comment above thanks de maria for correcting me. Wolfe. Indeed we are often victims of true prejudice-marginalized as lunatics, bazaare, on the fringe or fringe groups, etc. Its quite true that President King inherited a very bad financial situation. Sacrificate sacrificium justitiae, et sperate in Domino, Telephone: (570) 842-4000Fax: (570) 319-9770info@fssp.com, Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter450 Venard RoadSouth Abington Township, PA 18411, SupportPrivacy PolicyMachine Readable Files, Adjutorium Program (Masses for Living and Deceased Members), Webinar Today: St. John Bosco Camp Application Launch. Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. FSSP Missions Liars and cowards is what the two I spoke to wereand one was the former head of the order here in America. john6 He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. Louie, your blog does not rise and fall by my participation. Sunday 22nd October. Unfortunately, people who follow Bergoglio are not Catholic. I totally agree with you about CMTV. Questions: Saguto for a series of conferences over three days, beginning Thursday, August 11th through Saturday, August 13th. No sedevacantists disagree on this. I remember every word and it is my expectation that Father Wolfe will find someone else to host all the sermons he has been preaching but have not been posted publicly since the sad split with Audio Sancto. There is also, to borrow Voris words, an objective case of jurisdiction, and the legal/subjective case of jurisdiction. 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